Jon Ciccolini and Bill Rehor of Beadle & Grimm took an hour of their busy day to talk to me about their upcoming Star Trek Murder Mystery and Escape Room games that’s currently on Kickstarter for a surprisingly low price for a game that’s going to have an AR component and some form of participation from Star Trek: Picard actor Todd Stashwick.

I’ve never played a murder mystery table top game before, nor an escape room game, but the concept is super intriguing to me, so if you’re in the same boat, you may appreciate the naive questions, and if you’re already familiar with the concepts, I hope you find my ignorance endearing.

The murder mystery is set on the Titan-A whilst captained by Liam Shaw and you need to clear a character’s name while various murder related shenanigans are playing out through the game artifacts. You can use your phone to interact with the universe with an app and it has the ability to give hints if you get stuck in the narrative.

The escape room is set during Strange New Worlds and involves a ghost ship that you’re going to investigate and presumably escape from.

Both games are on the same Star Trek Kick-Starter and you get a heck of a discount if you buy them both at the same time, but you don’t have very long to make it happen, it’s closing this Friday on November 22nd!